Category: Quakers

At Meeting: 13th October 2013


Flowers Oct13 2013

In which we welcomed a new attender for the second time and learned that one Friend would be moving out of Luton in January for both work and personal reasons. We were so pleased for them as a new chapter in their life journey was soon to begin but sad that we would soon lose a good Friend at meeting.

A reading from Quaker Faith & Practice (26.12) which the reader related to the silence of unprogrammed worship.

“So one approaches, by efforts which call for the deepest resources of one’s being, to the condition of true silence; not just of sitting still, not just of not speaking, but of a wide awake, fully aware non-thinking. It is in this condition, found and held for a brief instant only, that I have experienced the existence of something other than ‘myself’. The thinking me has vanished, and with it vanishes the sense of separation, of unique identity. One is not left naked and defenceless, as one is, for example, by the operations of the mind in self-analysis. One becomes instead aware, one is conscious of being a participant in the whole of existence, not limited to the body or the moment… It is in this condition that one understands the nature of the divine power, its essential identity with love, in the widest sense of that much misused word.”


Geoffrey Hubbard, 1974


Quaker Study: Meeting Voices

Our local Quaker study group took the opportunity to watch a video aimed at new and potentially new Quakers and made in co-operation with Yorkshire Quakers which prompted much discussion about what each of us gets from silent worship and how different in tone many regional meetings can be (because we're all different). This also prompted much discussion on being comfortable sharing your own point of view, how comfortable or uncomfortable some members are with 'God language', being accepting of others, welcoming enquirers, the issue of true diversity and speaking and ministry within the meeting vs speaking during afterword (or bridging time as it's called at our local meeting).

Here's the two part video:

At Meeting: 6th October 2013

Flowers For 6th October 2013

“We do not own the world, and its riches are not ours to dispose of at will. Show a loving consideration for all creatures, and seek to maintain the beauty and variety of the world. Work to ensure that our increasing power over nature is used responsibly, with reverence for life. Rejoice in the splendour of God’s continuing creation.”

Quaker Faith & Practice – Advices & Queries 42

This passage was read out at meeting today. A Friend appreciated greatly the reading and wondered if we could have more plants within the meeting house. They also thought it was always good to share access to nature.

Another Friend commented on the gentle light changes from nature outside the window during silent worship and how the insects caught the autumn sun.

Tea and Coffee was shared with much eager conversation. A cake was shared and used to accept ‘what you can afford’ payments towards a donation we made to help Harpenden Meeting House refurbishment. We discussed arrangements for those of us attending next week’s poverty in Britain event at Watford Meeting House.



History: Blanche Lane Quakers

The story began in 2007 when a lady began extending her semi- detached cottage in Blanche Lane , South Mimms . Builders started to excavate at the back of the house to discover to their horror   buried bones and eventually 32 skeletons , some in coffins.          

The ghoulish discovery reached the national press   – police and  forensic officers sealed off the area and after foul play had been ruled out the origin of the bones were discovered. Local council records revealed that the house had been built on the site of a 17th century  Quaker meeting house and burial ground. A decision had to be made about what to do with the remains. Quakers in London were consulted and eventually  suggested the remains should be cremated- an undertaker informed the home owner that the cost of cremation would be around £800 per body. Fortunately it was found that Luton Meeting was willing for the bones to be laid to rest in their lovely , tranquil burial ground , without charge.        

Blanch Lane Quakers Burial

On 13th May 2008 three caskets were laid to rest in a simple , moving ceremony at the burial site . Gathered round were a number of  Quakers, the home owner and builders, all  wanting to show their respect to the unknown dead.            

The words of John Rowntree were read out : 

    “ Love bridges death. We are the comrades of those who are gone;      though  death separates us , their work , their fortitude , their love     shall be ours .” 


Quaker archives record that in South Mimms meetings were held in the house of Samuel Hodges , a butcher , who was fined for holding them in

1683. In 1686 he sold land to Quakers  for £5 as a site for a meeting house and in 1697 this was built along with a burial ground . By 1801 Quakers met there only occasionally and in 1820 both the meeting house and burial ground were sold for£120.  

In the 1600s Quakers were persecuted for their beliefs and were not allowed to be buried in consecrated church grounds. Instead burials often took place in the countryside.        

It is ironic that the site – used by Quakers , who were known for their simple  lifestyles  – should now accommodate  a home cinema and a gym –trappings of an indulgent  21st  century lifestyle.

Written by Carol Bond

Quaker Study: Simplicity

Tonight's Quaker study evening mused on simplicity and the simplicity testimony.  Questions a plenty. Does living simply necessarily mean aspiring (!) to have less stuff or is it more about practicing a kind of mindfulness in order to appreciate what's important in the here and now?

The evening concluded with a reading of this quote:

Personal pride does not end with noble blood. It leads people to a fond value of their persons, especially if they have any pretence to shape or beauty. Some are so taken with themselves it would seem that nothing else deserved their attention. Their folly would diminish if they could spare but half the time to think of God, that they spend in washing, perfuming, painting and dressing their bodies. In these things they are precise and very artificial and spare no cost. But what aggravates the evil is that the pride of one might comfortably supply the needs of ten. Gross impiety it is that a nation's pride should be maintained in the face of its poor.

William Penn, 1669

Quaker faith & practice 20.29

At Meeting – 18th August 2013

There is little point in praying to be enabled to overcome some temptation, and then putting oneself in the very position in which the temptation can exert all its fascination. There is little point in praying that the sorrowing may be comforted and the lonely cheered, unless we ourselves set out to bring comfort and cheer to the sad and neglected in our own surroundings. There is little point in praying for our home and for our loved ones, and in going on being as selfish and inconsiderate as we have been. Prayer would be an evil rather than a blessing if it were only a way of getting God to do what we ourselves will not make the effort to do. God does not do things for us – he enables us to do them for ourselves.

Elisabeth Holmgaard, 1984

Quaker Faith & Practice 2.28


Sunday morning 1

Another friend spoke of being reminded of a story where a man was visiting meetings around the country and arrived early at one meeting house so sat down in a chair to wait for friends to arrive. The first person to arrive promptly asked them to move as the place they had chose was where they normally sat.

They too were not sat where they normally liked to be seated but though they sat with their back to the window they felt they became more aware of the sounds of birds through the door left open so as to allow a breeze to cool a still warm late summer morning. They were grateful that sitting elsewhere had enhanced their appreciation of the sounds of nearby nature.

Thanks and appreciation was also expressed for friends who were at Balcombe as part of concerns regarding fracking.

Conscience and Joy: On Becoming A Quaker ‘Attender’.

I’ve been meaning to write something for the Luton Quaker blog for some time and have been slow in getting round to it, in part because I was not sure what I could offer to a tradition of which I am as yet only a partial member. For the record, I’m an ‘attender’, rather than a ‘member’, as I have not yet formally requested to join the Religious Society of Friends. I’m conscious of it being one of the options available to me, and I have given time already to wondering at what point I might take this step, and why.

For now, I’d like to write a little about what prompted me to set foot in a Quaker meeting house for the first time in February 2011. It was not without trepidation, as even now I really fight shy of describing myself as ‘religious’ in any way. Incidentally, I can recommend making contact with the Luton meeting beforehand if you are interested in coming along, as that’s what I did. I was invited for a cup of tea before the meeting, and knowing that I wasn’t turning up entirely out of the blue made the whole occasion much less daunting.

It might be helpful to begin with a few remarks about my background and my experiences with religion. Baptised Roman Catholic after my father, I got as far as taking first Holy Communion, in fact in Luton (at St Joseph’s Roman Catholic Church), during a two-year period when I lived here as a child. Despite my baptism, I was brought up in a (loosely) Church of England household by my mother, who had no truck with (what she saw as) the Catholic ‘smells and bells’ approach to religion. For her, being ‘Christian’ is not a deeply held religious belief but a safeguard of ordinary British respectability: the very notion that one might actually read the Bible or be part of a church quite unthinkable (and unnecessary) in her view.

As a child, I marked myself out as an early non-conformist when I took issue with her desire to hang a ‘glow-in-the-dark’ plastic crucifix (with apparent talismanic qualities) in my bedroom, and by the time I had left school I had decided that I simply could not in conscience ally myself with a religion (even a God) that viewed homosexual relationships as necessarily sinful, or inferior, or which drew (to my mind) petty and legal distinctions about wedlock or ‘legitimacy’ (of children), or placed restrictions on family planning. When I breezily told my mother at some point that I no longer considered myself to be a Christian, my mum was shocked: ‘But you believe in being nice to people, don’t you?’ Why, yes. But I did not believe (as I still do not) that Christianity (or indeed any one religion, or of necessity any religion at all) is an exclusive path to the possession of a moral conscience, or compass.

In fact, my non-religious turn was never as monolithic as it appeared, and the clues to my rehabilitation (!) were there in plain sight. I have described myself as ‘agnostic’ (rather than as an atheist) for many years; moreover an agnostic of the ‘permanently agnostic in principle’ type so scorned by Richard Dawkins. It has never felt especially meaningful to describe myself as definitively atheist even though I am equally unable to say with certainty that I believe in [a] g/God. Perhaps all I can say on this matter is that I have time for an experience of God (where ‘god’ is the name of something that I am finally unable to put into words), and of the encounter of ‘that of God in everyone’, the form of words used by Quakers to found their belief in the radical equality and fundamental worth of all human beings.

I think what is key to my interest in the Quakers is the way that Quakerism allows me to sit with my uncertainty in a way which is nevertheless productive. When I walk into meeting for worship, I do not wear the mantle of a believer; I am not asked to sign a creed; I can take inspiration in the teachings of (Christian, potentially other) scripture but do not have to hand over that portion of my incredulity that struggles to engage with the specific creedal aspects of Christianity (angelic visitations, virgin births, etc.) and which is unwilling to concede exclusive access to spiritual truths to any one religion. For all that there is much that I value in the Christian tradition, I cannot in conscience call myself Christian, since I do not accept (which is not quite to say that I reject) the doctrinal significance of Jesus or see in Christ an exclusive pathway to an experience of God.

At the same time, I recognise that I am broadly ‘Christian’ by heritage and by upbringing, and here again being involved with the Quakers makes sense to me. The story of the Quakers is an originally Christian and British story about coming to terms with one’s conscience and seeking to describe and live a new path sooner than live ‘in bad faith’. In the modern Quaker tradition, it is now entirely possible to be Quaker without being Christian, or Quaker and Christian, even Quaker and Buddhist, etc. Quakerism allows for the possibility of a range of hyphenated identities giving expression to a range of different experiences. I imagine some people see this as a distinctly ‘wishy-washy’, uncommitted approach; for me it is the only way to proceed authentically from where and who I am, and I think this path can be both authentic and rigorous through what I perceive as the powerful alliance of mindfulness (reflecting on one’s values, and trying to live in alignment with these) and silence; both key aspects of the Quaker ‘way‘.

Engaging with the Quakers gives me a way to ‘run with’ my uncertainty rather than running away from it. I don’t go to the weekly meeting with a view to receiving easy answers to any of my questions, and nor do I look to anyone within the meeting for authority on this or that spiritual topic.  I do, however, drink deeply of the undoubted wisdom which I find more broadly within the Quaker tradition and within their published thinking on a number of issues, such as their peace testimony, their evolving thoughts on sustainability, economics and social justice, and their views on relationships and sexuality.

I never fail to be moved by the range and depth of testimonies that are included in Quaker Faith and Practice, the remarkable handbook of Quaker thinking and values that is available in every Quaker meeting house, and from which passages are sometimes read in the course of the Sunday meeting. It is a remarkable and indeed beautiful document that brings together writings from the very first Quakers of the 17th century with individual and corporate accounts from the last few decades, and which together weave a tapestry of thought and experience that is striking not only for the range and diversity of views but also for making the case for what is cohesive and enduring within the Quaker tradition: values of compassion, reasonableness and humility and above all of these, a willingness to think,  a willingness to feel, and a willingness to learn from experience.

I love that the diverse writings within Quaker Faith and Practice are not set in stone, and that the volume is edited and re-published at intervals in order to ensure that the testimonies continue to reflect the central ground of Quaker thinking today.

I can imagine that some people might baulk at the idea that Quakers place value in a changing, evolving set of reflections rather than in unchanging scripture (though it should be noted that a copy of the Bible is also available in meeting). For me there is something both rigorous and subtle – and infinitely demanding! – in the Quaker idea of ‘discernment’ – of listening carefully (as an individual, or as a meeting) for the ‘leadings of the spirit’, as Quaker language might put it.  I understand this term to mean those thoughts and feelings which emerge from lived experience, from reflection, and from the silence of meetings.

I want to make a case for the idea that the experience of God (if I can speak of g/God, and it’s not an obvious or easy word for me to use) is not fully ‘revealed’ (and did not come to an abrupt halt in 33 AD or even 632 CE): what we may understand as ‘god’ unfolds over time, finding expression in the lived experience of individual human beings, relationships, communities, and ecosystems.

To conclude, I want to present a couple of the things which led me very personally to make a connection with the Quakers. Firstly, there is their view on homosexuality in particular, but also relationships in general, and more recently their expression of support for marriage equality. There are a number of passages within Quaker Faith and Practice which joyfully affirm the role of sexuality in human life (and which give the lie to any notion of dour (porridge-eating!) Quaker ‘puritanism’):

Human sexuality is a divine gift, forming part of the complex union of body, mind and spirit which is our humanity. The sexual expression of a loving relationship can bring delight, joy and fulfilment.

Of relationships and homosexuality:

Where there is genuine tenderness, an openness to responsibility, and the seed of commitment, God is surely not shut out. Can we not say that God can enter any relationship in which there is a measure of selfless love? – and is not every generalisation we make qualified by this?

It is the nature and quality of a relationship that matters: one must not judge it by its outward appearance but by its inner worth. Homosexual affection can be as selfless as heterosexual affection, and therefore we cannot see that it is in some way morally worse.

Homosexual affection may of course be an emotion which some find aesthetically disgusting, but one cannot base Christian morality on a capacity for such disgust. Neither are we happy with the thought that all homosexual behaviour is sinful: motive and circumstances degrade or ennoble any act…

We see no reason why the physical nature of a sexual act should be the criterion by which the question whether or not it is moral should be decided. An act which (for example) expresses true affection between two individuals and gives pleasure to them both, does not seem to us to be sinful by reason alone of the fact that it is homosexual. The same criteria seem to us to apply whether a relationship is heterosexual or homosexual.

(Towards a Quaker view of sex, 1963)

I also love the way that the Quaker marriage ceremony gives full expression to the idea of marriage as a freely chosen commitment between equals, something which was highly radical and counter-cultural in the time of the first Quakers in respect of sexual equality. I am moved by the wording of the ceremony, which (as always) I understand to be mostly conducted in silence, but to involve the two partners calling on each other explicitly as ‘Friends’ to join them in marriage.

All of this seems to me to be profoundly sane, compassionate, and carefully weighed, but also – and I want to emphasise this – joyful, passionate. It is correct to note here that there are also Quakers who hold different views with respect to gay marriage; the ‘Quaker way’ in Britain has not been to exclude these views, but nevertheless to pursue a corporate path of support for gay marriage since (at least) 2008. Finally, I was delighted with the wording of a recent press release on the occasion of the passing of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill through the House of Lords, which Quakers ‘greeted with joy’. Joy! How great is that?

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